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Title: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on October 18, 2010, 05:59:37 PM
http://www.nychalloweenhauntedhouse.com/rules.html


Holy hell.  You have to go through by yourself.  You have to go through barefoot.  You will be touched.  DAMN!

Sign me up...this sounds amazing (but asking for trouble).


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Cousin Levi Slaughter on October 19, 2010, 06:37:00 PM
Sounds like great marketing to me.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on October 19, 2010, 06:47:08 PM
I just found a video (on that site) for their summer haunt.  Am I falling for a great internet hoax or is this thing really that FUBAR?


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on October 19, 2010, 10:16:36 PM
Yeah I watched that video too. Looked fun haha.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Prof. Hacker on October 28, 2010, 12:51:13 PM
An interesting article on this season's NYC haunts including the Vortex haunt....

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/22/arts/22haunt.html?_r=3&pagewanted=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

-Prof.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: nctrembley0613 on October 28, 2010, 09:35:11 PM
just read it...i would be scared.  in the dark, alone, i would be real scared.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on October 28, 2010, 10:45:24 PM
This whole place looks right up my alley.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on October 29, 2010, 10:58:32 AM
I'm so tempted to check that place out next year.  Thanks for the article, Prof!


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on October 11, 2011, 01:31:53 PM
They're back...............

http://blackoutnyc.com/home


That video is crazy.  Who wants to go? :)


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on October 11, 2011, 04:25:20 PM
Sign me up haha


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: handfulofrubies82 on October 12, 2011, 11:59:15 AM
Check out this guy's reviews of The Vortex.

Their Spring haunt: http://jadedviewer.blogspot.com/2011/05/disoriented-recollection-of-nyc-haunted.html <-- This goes way beyond the level of interaction I want. No thanks!

Blackout Haunted House (Review) (NYC Haunted House 2011) : http://jadedviewer.blogspot.com/2011/10/blackout-haunted-house-review-nyc.html


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on October 12, 2011, 12:26:02 PM
Thanks for the links.  I've read reviews before but none that really gave much detail.  CREEPY.  I *still* want to give it a go.....though nothing on that review sounds appealing.  It's more to sort of test my mental fortitude I guess.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on October 12, 2011, 12:27:22 PM
I'm still really excited to check this place out at some point


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on October 12, 2011, 12:31:06 PM
Im thinking of a road trip next year, krb   ;)

I just read through the "walk-through" of last year's haunted house as well as the snippets from the Spring.  Jeebus!  The noose thing woulda had me crying like a little girl to be let go...


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on October 12, 2011, 12:45:33 PM
I'll deffinately be down to go packbacker, yeah the strangulation thing would be crazy


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: handfulofrubies82 on October 12, 2011, 01:22:38 PM
Anytime anyone wants to plan a nyc roadtrip, I'm in. I went for halloween in 2003, but I don't think they were doing anything like Vortex back then. It's too bad though that we didn't think ahead and all go for sleep no more; more than worth it!!


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on October 12, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
Im very serious about next year.  Problem is work / football.......but I think I gotta find a way.   Their spring haunting is "invite only" or that would make more sense time-wise for me to check out.  Sigh.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on October 12, 2011, 10:48:16 PM
Im serious too


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Radiant_Red on October 13, 2011, 12:33:57 AM
Jumping on this bandwagon. At least to go to NYC. I'll stay in my comfort zone and away from the vortex. Sleepy Hollow would be cool to check out.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on December 05, 2011, 06:54:04 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/travel/2011/dec/04/america-horror-theatre


Craziness.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on December 05, 2011, 07:33:29 PM
I could do it. Without pissing myself? Different story hahah


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Prof. Hacker on December 09, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
Doesn't sound like "horror" so much as "abuse".
-Prof


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: ReLlIK ThE KiLlEr CloWn on December 09, 2011, 11:18:45 AM
Doesn't sound like "horror" so much as "abuse".
-Prof

I agree with Prof. This sorta sounds a little too far.. I see what they are trying to do.. But also, there is a fine line between getting scared and actually abused.. hahaha.
I love the idea though. I wouldn't mind acting in something like this..


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on December 09, 2011, 03:30:33 PM
The way I see it is if you pay for it then you do it too yourself. But I don't think its too far, I think its exactly what the haunt scene needs right now.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: ~honey~ on December 14, 2011, 03:40:28 PM
Ugh, this sounds miserable and not worth the money at all.  There is a difference between "haunt" and "nonsense abusive behavior that shouldn't be condoned by anyone, done to people who need psychological help for their creepy fetishes".

This is what I hope the haunt scene does not turn to.  They need to create their own category and not call it a haunt, IMO.  I'd rather not see this stuff start to become the "norm" for haunted houses (or attractions, I guess I should say).  I may be giving my brutal opinion, and I'm sure some of you don't agree with me, but I just don't find any entertainment value in something like this. 


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on December 14, 2011, 07:09:47 PM
I think it's a perfectly acceptable opinion.  I also think that there is no way the haunt industry goes this route.  Liability is huge and honestly I don't think a large group of people are seeking this sort of experience. 

Personally I'm looking to get scared and I'm guessing it takes a new level for me to do so.  I applaud them for innovation and depravity but highly doubt they (or similar "experiences") will ever be the standard.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Slappy on December 14, 2011, 07:49:46 PM
A new level of what?  Usually I'm right there with you guys, but this isn't a haunted house, it's a snuff film without the cameras.  This is sick, perverted and disgusting and I can't believe people actually pay for this garbage.  I'll put a noose around your neck, cover you in blood and kick you in your privates for $5 each, how does that sound?  If you want nudity, then take your clothes off, I'll take pictures and post them on the internet!  And you never have to leave NC! 

This place should be closed down.  No, this place should be burned down and the owners should go to jail.  No, prison, where they can all be the significant other to someone named Tiny.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on December 14, 2011, 08:59:31 PM
The question becomes why do we attend haunts, watch horror movies, celebrate Halloween, etc etc.

A big part of it is the love of the "genre".  I *love* going through haunts but have become a bit jaded- seeing faults or predicting the scare.  I got scared IIRC just once last year.  It's been years since I've been scared by a horror film- The Blair Witch Project best I can remember.  What I am looking for is fear (the illusion of danger mind you) and I think it sounds interesting.  Do I want to be water boarded?  Not really.  The initial description- going through alone, shoeless, and being instructed on what to do....the simple thought is unique (for me) and scary.  People pay for lots of stupid things.....I think people that pay for tickets to a rap "concert" are stupid....I can yell into a microphone for $5.  To each their own, there.  And again, I think this group is catering to a very niche audience....it's not going to be the standard come October.


I think these folks are putting together an attraction (I'll not use the word haunt) to try and scare people in new ways.  If you read the walk-throughs / reviews from 1-2 years ago things were  a lot more tame.  Like most things in life they "up the ante" in successive years/films/etc.  To my knowledge they're not doing anything illegal and I just don't get the hatred here.  It's like anything in life.....if you don't like it, you just don't go (ie Twilight films!). 

The best thing to come from this thread- interesting conversation during the "off-season"

The worst thing to come from this thread- the idea of Slappy photographing me naked  ;)   


   


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: ~honey~ on December 14, 2011, 09:31:45 PM
I can understand the thought that you just need something MORE to get scared. 

HOWEVER, this place seems to be just using plain out sadomasochism... not particularly fear, in my opinion, just shock.  And yay, boobs.  I dunno, it seems more like this place is catering to perverse sexual setups than anything else.  I'm not afraid of a woman bleeding and grinding on me, I'm disgusted, and I don't want to pay to have something like that happen.  Nor do I want to be choked.  Or made to eat a fetus.  Or have to strip in front of people.  The scariest parts were being blindfolded and drove in a van to a creepy warehouse with the "men in black".  And at the end, not knowing if it was actually over would be disorienting too.  But everything in between is just gross.  I heard of a place that sticks you with acupuncture needles, and while I am terrified of needles, I think I would be more raving mad if I paid to go to a place and they did that to me.  There is a line that shouldn't be crossed, no matter how "jaded" you are by normal scares in haunted houses, this is just too much for me. 


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on December 14, 2011, 11:59:25 PM
I guess I should jump in here. I agree with Pack on the higher lever of it. But you definately can't define it as general horror or general haunts. It is for a very set group of people, and if I would have to classify it I would say its the haunt equivalent of an exploitation horror film. It is definately not for everyone thats for sure. It is an exploitation haunt and I dig that but thats just me, it will always be subjective.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Prof. Hacker on December 15, 2011, 10:14:29 AM
...It is an exploitation haunt and I dig that but thats just me, it will always be subjective.

Extreme.  The new word for novelty, i.e., 'something different'.
These kinds of haunts have been around for a long time, Blackout is the one getting press right now.  They appeal to a small minority, but not enough to be financially successful for long.  Detroit (then later, New York) had an 'X-rated' haunt years back, and it presented most of the scenes you could imagine, some where the actors would (try to) get patrons to participate.  A Texas haunt had live animals you had to get through in the dark (ever tried to squeeze past a cow in the dark?). Or what you  think are Lions in the room with you, in the dark.  The 'rat lady' at Universal and SpookyWorld shook up a lot of people.  The Punch Drunk Theater's Macbeth  is possibly the most interesting interactive theater experience, in the dark, I've heard of - but that's theater, and really falls outside of haunting (or does it?).

There are two directions to take, going extreme, or moving into another genre.  Extreme does have its limits.  I remember Joe Jensen, a large haunt owner in Chicago from years ago, stating that if he could 'just kill one patron a year' his attendance would skyrocket.  Now, that's extreme - and he's probably right. Moving to other genres is another option, with a myriad of issues around communicating that this is something 'new' instead of something 'different' that may not appeal to everyone.  It's very difficult to convince folks you're a "haunted attraction" when producing the Scottish play.  And, interestingly, Macbeth *is* a ghost story....

Still, abuse is abuse, and somehow seems to fill a need for some folks (but its not my cup of tea) .  A Hell House seems to fill a need somehow. (imho - this is the MOST disturbing - and abusive - 'haunt' in my book).  Given the choice between a Hell House and Blackout - it's Blackout, hands down.  At least, they're advertising what they are  ;-)
Every year at the haunted attraction show, you can hear dozens of conversations among haunt owners about the 'next big thing' that'll add novelty to their shows, and, bring in more customers.  That's what sells, both for the business owner, and the consumer.
The same issue concerns theme parks owners - what's the next new, 'extreme' thing we can add to get people in the gate?  That 1,000 foot drop coaster that spins you until you hurl is so last year... what you got *this* year?
Novelty gets attention.  Its extremely difficult to give folks consistently high entertainment value while reaching for the next "new thing".  Spookywoods goes 'out there' every year trying to give the next big thing.  And, with risk, comes controversy, success, and sometimes, angst.  But, hit or miss, going to the 'edge' of the entertainment experience does bring folks to the ticket booth.  And, when all is said and done, people vote with their dollars.  And that's what keeps the lights on (or off, as the case may be).

I believe there is a lot of unexplored 'terror-tory' in haunting yet to be unearthed (all puns intended).
For every dozen 'extreme' attempts at haunted entertainment, there will be one 'gem', one paradigm-changer, that'll make an impact across the entire country. 

They come around every now and then....
My extreme 26.7 cents...
-Prof.



Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: ReLlIK ThE KiLlEr CloWn on December 15, 2011, 10:58:43 AM
The Punch Drunk Theater's Macbeth  is possibly the most interesting interactive theater experience, in the dark, I've heard of - but that's theater, and really falls outside of haunting (or does it?).





I think (From a actor and theatre kid point of view...) it's honestly the same.. I use a lot of my theatre stuff to do my clowns. If you ever watch me work, I never break character, I use my "On-stage" rules for haunt stuff also.. Things like how I stay in character, I even do a Character development and everything.. I think personally Macbeth idea is amazing. I love it. I honestly would like to act in it.

Idk, I just like adding in my opinions in random places.




Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Radiant_Red on December 15, 2011, 05:05:44 PM


 The Punch Drunk Theater's Macbeth  is possibly the most interesting interactive theater experience, in the dark, I've heard of - but that's theater, and really falls outside of haunting (or does it?).





I have to say, for the millionth time, it was awesome! I wish everyone could go.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: packbacker on December 21, 2011, 07:14:49 PM
Thanks for the opinions and insider insight, Prof.  Gotta be a difficult line to walk for haunt operators.....have to change things up or people go elsewhere but taking too far a leap and you can alienate people that way (ie laser tag, a "exploitation haunt" etc etc).

Still interested in checking out Blackout......but fully understand people who are not keen on the idea. 


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on December 21, 2011, 11:40:16 PM
Im definately going next year


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Slappy on December 22, 2011, 09:56:10 AM
In the end, it's all about what "pops your cherry."  Different strokes for different folks, and if you're into being covered with (fake) blood, being stripped of your clothes (and dignity), then go for it.  I prefer to allow some things to my imagination.  Fortunately, I grew up in a time when imagination still existed.  I prefer to let my mind make the haunt even scarier, because what I can think up in the dark is far worse than what I've seen at ANY haunted attraction. 

I have to disagree with Rellik on on thing.  While I agree that theater and haunts are similar, they are not the same.  Even if the theater show is interactive, it's still not the same as a haunted house.  I've been going to haunted houses for over 30 years, and I've been doing theater since I was in third grade (including plays, musicals, and interactive murder-mysteries, etc.).  And while my theater experience certainly makes it easier for me to interact with patrons at a haunt, you can do one and not be good at the other.  Believe me, I've seen it. 


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on December 23, 2011, 02:04:40 AM
I'll be the first to admit I'm kind of sick when it comes to things like that, but I like pushing myself to my limits to see how much I can take, in all aspects of my life. That probably sounds dumb to some people but thats just what makes me feel more alive, its all about the adrenaline.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: Cousin Levi Slaughter on December 24, 2011, 09:26:00 AM
#Just my opinion here#
For some haunts there comes a time when EVERYBODY else is trying so hard to have the "new" & "different" thing, that they loose site of what made them a good haunt to begin with... I fully understand with growning number of customers changes must be made, but sometimes by being that "old school" haunt will actually make a haunt standout as "Different".
Just my opinion, as I said many times before, as long as I own a haunt I just want it to be built like some thing that I would want to go to. I don't see any "gimmick" zip lines, lazer tag, or any other of the "newest thing on the scene" coming to our haunt.
Don't get me wrong I'm sure some people love it, & in our industry there is no rule book on what to do, but I'm a haunted house fan... that likes going to HAUNTED HOUSES & I believe that most of our fans/ customers see it that way also.
I realize were not a HUGE haunt doing 50,000 people a year, I don't know that I would want to be either. I would rather be remembered for having a good in your face detailed haunt than having a carnival that has all kinds of "spots" to bleed the customer  dry of all their money & oh yea a haunted house mixed in somewhere.
Don't get me started on paying to park!
Just my opinion, yours may differ
Slaughter


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: krb187 on December 24, 2011, 12:42:56 PM
I acually agree alot with you slaughter, if theres one thing I heard from people this haunt season it's how much they wished there was more "old school" haunts, me being one of them. So to me the old school haunts are the best thing out there right now, and I know the same goes for all the other hardcore haunters like me. Nothing will ever beat just straight up in your face, old school scares.


Title: Re: Vortex Theater NYC
Post by: ReLlIK ThE KiLlEr CloWn on January 04, 2012, 10:33:05 AM
I see your point Slappy..
Idk I guess honestly just depends on the person, and who you are dealing with. Some people can cooperate it into their act, some can't. I use it for my style.. Everyone is different! But I see your point exactly.